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		<title>By: &#187; Brain Science Podcast #17: The Wisdom of the Aging Brain</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; Brain Science Podcast #17: The Wisdom of the Aging Brain</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://docartemis.com/brainsciencepodcast/2007/05/brain-science-podcast-12-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-374</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 21:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really enjoyed this episode! I agree with Patrick that you could have several &#039;spin-off&#039; podcasts from this one. I especially enjoyed hearing someone else admit to not being able to cram. I never could, I used to give up about a week before the exams - my friends all thought I was mad. Also, on memory malleability, my sister and I used to have endless arguements about our childhood memories of the same events, and I now realise that my version was as legitimate as hers! I can remember being called in to see 9/11 on a colleagues computer, several of us stood in shocked silence and then all started saying at once this can&#039;t be happening. That day is still very clear in my memory. Look forward to the next episode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really enjoyed this episode! I agree with Patrick that you could have several &#8217;spin-off&#8217; podcasts from this one. I especially enjoyed hearing someone else admit to not being able to cram. I never could, I used to give up about a week before the exams &#8211; my friends all thought I was mad. Also, on memory malleability, my sister and I used to have endless arguements about our childhood memories of the same events, and I now realise that my version was as legitimate as hers! I can remember being called in to see 9/11 on a colleagues computer, several of us stood in shocked silence and then all started saying at once this can&#8217;t be happening. That day is still very clear in my memory. Look forward to the next episode.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Pricken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Pricken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2007 10:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Freud – obsessed with sex? No way!</description>
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		<title>By: docartemis</title>
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		<dc:creator>docartemis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 01:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick,

I think you are going to be a star on the Brain Science Forum once I get it going!

I appreciate all your thoughtful comments.

It is very helpful to learn about the German perspective on Freud. In the States he has been largely discredited for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is recent evidence that he may have fabricated some of his case studies.

I spent several years studying Jung but Freud always seemed to obsessed with sex for my tastes.

Karl Popper wrote very convincingly about why both Freud and Jung&#039;s thought should be regarded as pseudo-science. I don&#039;t know what is available in German, but I liked Conjectures and Refutations: The Growth of Scientific Knowledge .

Your thoughts about 9/11 were intriguing. I think we all have strange memory lapses/gaps that make us wonder about the whole process.

I look forward to exploring the area further in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick,</p>
<p>I think you are going to be a star on the Brain Science Forum once I get it going!</p>
<p>I appreciate all your thoughtful comments.</p>
<p>It is very helpful to learn about the German perspective on Freud. In the States he has been largely discredited for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is recent evidence that he may have fabricated some of his case studies.</p>
<p>I spent several years studying Jung but Freud always seemed to obsessed with sex for my tastes.</p>
<p>Karl Popper wrote very convincingly about why both Freud and Jung&#8217;s thought should be regarded as pseudo-science. I don&#8217;t know what is available in German, but I liked Conjectures and Refutations: The Growth of Scientific Knowledge .</p>
<p>Your thoughts about 9/11 were intriguing. I think we all have strange memory lapses/gaps that make us wonder about the whole process.</p>
<p>I look forward to exploring the area further in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Pricken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Pricken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 22:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and the zombie carrying/handling/examining a brain? Duh. It&#039;s a zombie :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and the zombie carrying/handling/examining a brain? Duh. It&#8217;s a zombie :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Pricken</title>
		<link>http://docartemis.com/brainsciencepodcast/2007/05/brain-science-podcast-12-memory/comment-page-1/#comment-370</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Pricken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 22:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it came up in your previous episode where you commented on trauma victims not getting better by talking about it, but actually only wallowing in the bad emotions/memories – in and of itself very interesting –, that you made an off-hand comment on Freud.

In Germany, I think Freud has a somewhat better standing (we&#039;re woo-woo land, anyway. Not religiously fanatic, but homeopathy and its ilk).

But also, the &quot;repressed memory&quot; is a common film thrope (along with the loss of memory from an accident or something), and even if neurologists know better, I think a lot of people would still think traumatic episodes are likely to be repressed.

So, misconceptions about memory or something might actually make for a well-filled podcast.

I know that since you mentioned it in the last podcast, I have actually questioned my 9/11-memories. Where I was, what I did, etc. I&#039;ve come to the conclusion that at the very least I&#039;ve streamlined the story and ironed out the kinks, so that it makes for a better narrative. Now much of it I just took from other people talking about it? I don&#039;t know. But since my memory is not all that spectacular – just happening upon it on TV, calling my friends and family and staring incredulously – I don&#039;t see a lot of possibilities for edits. Though I&#039;m not sure I set up a conference call with two friends of mine, or whether I just called them and hung up again. Since I&#039;d be hard pressed to name which two stayed on the line, I&#039;m guessing the latter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it came up in your previous episode where you commented on trauma victims not getting better by talking about it, but actually only wallowing in the bad emotions/memories – in and of itself very interesting –, that you made an off-hand comment on Freud.</p>
<p>In Germany, I think Freud has a somewhat better standing (we&#8217;re woo-woo land, anyway. Not religiously fanatic, but homeopathy and its ilk).</p>
<p>But also, the &#8220;repressed memory&#8221; is a common film thrope (along with the loss of memory from an accident or something), and even if neurologists know better, I think a lot of people would still think traumatic episodes are likely to be repressed.</p>
<p>So, misconceptions about memory or something might actually make for a well-filled podcast.</p>
<p>I know that since you mentioned it in the last podcast, I have actually questioned my 9/11-memories. Where I was, what I did, etc. I&#8217;ve come to the conclusion that at the very least I&#8217;ve streamlined the story and ironed out the kinks, so that it makes for a better narrative. Now much of it I just took from other people talking about it? I don&#8217;t know. But since my memory is not all that spectacular – just happening upon it on TV, calling my friends and family and staring incredulously – I don&#8217;t see a lot of possibilities for edits. Though I&#8217;m not sure I set up a conference call with two friends of mine, or whether I just called them and hung up again. Since I&#8217;d be hard pressed to name which two stayed on the line, I&#8217;m guessing the latter.</p>
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		<title>By: docartemis</title>
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		<dc:creator>docartemis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 22:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Feedback as usual Patrick!

Do you see the Zombie carrying a brain perhaps?

On the subject of repressed memories,  I think I will have to emphasize more clearly on another episode that current evidence is almost the opposite Freud&#039;s ideas. This is important because a lot of &quot;therapy&quot; still seems to be based on the idea that recovering &quot;repressed&quot; memories is the key to mental health and happiness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Feedback as usual Patrick!</p>
<p>Do you see the Zombie carrying a brain perhaps?</p>
<p>On the subject of repressed memories,  I think I will have to emphasize more clearly on another episode that current evidence is almost the opposite Freud&#8217;s ideas. This is important because a lot of &#8220;therapy&#8221; still seems to be based on the idea that recovering &#8220;repressed&#8221; memories is the key to mental health and happiness.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Pricken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick Pricken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 21:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey,

great topic, definitely something for more than one podcast. Short commentary follows.

1) I think the new logo should be a zombie in a labcoat.

2) What I missed – and this might come up in another show – was how the general public&#039;s understanding of concepts like &quot;eidetic memory&quot; or &quot;repressed memories&quot; compare to the scientific understanding.

3) Very important to note that memories are not as reliable as we think they are. Perhaps that, too, might be a separate show?

4) What I liked this time was how intuitive a lot of the findings are. I mean, when I learn something, for example for an exam (&quot;What is this cramming that you are speaking of?&quot; :-)), I usually try to write things down, perhaps draw a sketch or a chart, speak it aloud, try to find examples, in order to form as many connections as I can.

5) another topic might be concentration, or focusing on things. I notice that while I am listening, a certain point will occupy my mind. I then try to rephrase the point, perhaps also look for an example, so I don&#039;t forget the gist of it, but then a few seconds have passed and I may have missed the next point. Or when I&#039;m sitting in a lecture and the professor is talking for 90 minutes straight, my concentration sort of wafts in and out.

Have a nice weekend!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,</p>
<p>great topic, definitely something for more than one podcast. Short commentary follows.</p>
<p>1) I think the new logo should be a zombie in a labcoat.</p>
<p>2) What I missed – and this might come up in another show – was how the general public&#8217;s understanding of concepts like &#8220;eidetic memory&#8221; or &#8220;repressed memories&#8221; compare to the scientific understanding.</p>
<p>3) Very important to note that memories are not as reliable as we think they are. Perhaps that, too, might be a separate show?</p>
<p>4) What I liked this time was how intuitive a lot of the findings are. I mean, when I learn something, for example for an exam (&#8220;What is this cramming that you are speaking of?&#8221; :-)), I usually try to write things down, perhaps draw a sketch or a chart, speak it aloud, try to find examples, in order to form as many connections as I can.</p>
<p>5) another topic might be concentration, or focusing on things. I notice that while I am listening, a certain point will occupy my mind. I then try to rephrase the point, perhaps also look for an example, so I don&#8217;t forget the gist of it, but then a few seconds have passed and I may have missed the next point. Or when I&#8217;m sitting in a lecture and the professor is talking for 90 minutes straight, my concentration sort of wafts in and out.</p>
<p>Have a nice weekend!</p>
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